that you've never heard of. It happened just two days after the Newton shooting, but you'd never know it:
http://hardnoxandfriends.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/san-antonio-theater-shooting/
On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?
There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you’d like to know.Thanks to Nox and Friends for making us all aware of this blacked out story
http://hardnoxandfriends.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/san-antonio-theater-shooting/
Vin Suprynowicz has a story up about Aurora, that supposedly there where 7 movie complexes within a 20 minute drive of the accused's home, but he chose that one, possibly because it was the ONLY one that had posted sign banning concealed handguns. Read it here.
ReplyDeleteAnd here is the original article in the National Review.
Yeah, they had to be sure they'd pull off enough carnage for the shock factor. You can't do that when you aren't pretty sure that red-blooded armed Americans are trained and waiting.
DeleteAlso note the "terrorist drills" that go on in schools. A whole SWAT team will send in a crazy guy or more into a school guns a blazing, not telling anyone beforehand there's going to be a drill. Kids literally wet their pants and have nightmares for months. They couldn't pull this off safely (for them) if the teachers were armed. At Newtown, several of the kids said their teachers told them it was a drill. This might have been to get them out of the building orderly, but there was a FEMA drill going on 30 miles away the very same day.
The agenda continues thanks to the msm.
ReplyDeleteIf it doesn't fit the agenda, it ain't news. Sigh!
ReplyDeleteYet the more guns we have out there without check the more violence we are seeing.
ReplyDeleteWrong, we have a net decrease in violent crime in areas where gun laws are most lenient.
DeleteThe violence in America is concentrated in "gun free" cities, where only the gangs have guns and are running roughshod over the law-abiding (even gun laws) citizen.
The US Government gives the drug cartels weapons, but gives crap to its citizens for not wanting a rectal exam before getting a gun. WE ARE the GOVERNMENT or are supposed to be.
There are no gun free cities. If you are referring to D.C then of course it won't work when you have surrounding states selling guns and a second hand market selling them. In D.C it is also a situation of extreme poverty and the crack epidemic of the 1970's and 80's. There are fire arms sellers more than happy to sell to criminals and non-criminals a like. They don't give a crap as long as they get their profits. Yet in countries with strict gun laws we have the lowest rate of crimes with guns. You claim the government gives drug cartels weapons but didn't mention the fact that the government has not restricted your or my or any other citizen's right to own a gun. We have the most relaxed gun laws in the first world. While I don't believe our problems are guns a lone, I do believe that it is one of major problems. We have way too many guns out there and they are increasingly in the wrong hands. Regulating them will not keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens. Limiting magazine clips to 3 rounds to 5 rounds at a time will not limit someone's capacity to protect themselves.
Delete"Limiting magazine clips to 3 rounds to 5 rounds at a time will not limit someone's capacity to protect themselves."
DeleteHard to argue with that. Let's let Dirty Harry do the talking, "I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five. ... You got to ask yourself one question, do I feel lucky. Well, do you, punk?"
Limiting clips limits the protection capacity depending on how awful a shot they are.
DeleteMexico has stringent gun laws for its citizens, yet it's a gun battle royal down there thanks to the ATF and their buddies the drug dealing CIA perps.
Believe me, bub, if there aren't enough guns in the wrong hands, the good ol' corrupt power structure will work overtime to make sure they do. S.P.E.C.T.R.E. is for real.
The ATF and CIA are not the problem compared to all the guns available to buy at gun fairs without i.d. Mexico's criminal problems happened way before Operation Fast and Furious or the ATF getting involved in tracking weapons. Criminals come up from Mexico and buy at gun fairs and unlawful gun dealers, then they ship them back to Mexico. They are also stolen from police and military in Mexico. Grenades and Rocket launchers are smuggled in from Guatamala.
DeleteAs far as S.P.E.C.T.R.E. is concerned, is there proof or is this simply a metaphor for a larger narrative?
BTW, no one needs more than 5 in the clip. If you can't shoot, be responsible about your perception of being threatened and get target lessons to make sure you can shoot.
DeleteIf you're up against the freaking military and SWAT, you might want a few more in the clip. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Period. We had an abundance of weapons all throught this nation's history and people kept their door unlocked and didn't worry about being massacred.
DeleteThe situation in Mexico is totally a product of the CIA's drug smuggling operations. They set up freaking Los Zetos. How many CIA planes with cocaine spilling out of the sides do we need to prove it to ourselves? This is the SPECTRE narrative that Ian Fleming was trying to get across to the public under the veil of fiction. The acronym stands for (SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion) , which pretty much sums up what our Federal Government seems to be up to. Soldiers are guarding poppy fields in Afghan(source for 90%), for which Pat Tillman was shot in the face for threatening to expose.
We might as well have Dr. Blofeld in charge of our government. Of course, he wouldn't want us little people to be armed in such a way as to have a chance against his impressive arsenal.
When you're up against the freaking military and SWAT, you don't have a chance no matter how much arsenal you think you need or have. Unless you propose we all have tanks and rockets in our cache. The weapons we had through out this country's history were not the same as today. And most of those were for hunting. Guns with magazine clips of 30 or more are not for hunting.
DeleteYes, the CIA is an incredibly corrupt organization. I know all about it's history from it's inception and it's involvement with heroin during the Viet Nam war too. Yet another war we should never have been involved with. Yes, poppy fields are being protected but so is a gas and oil pipeline being built from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan, Pakistan and into India bypassing Russia and Iran. And, I know where SPECTRE comes from. However, we do have this thing called drug demand in this country. And that is what is driving the cartel's business and violence in Mexico. It's all about control of Gas and Oil countries. It's the real geo-political fight. Terrorism and Drugs are a way to divert the attention of the American people.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-wars-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa-are-not-just-about-oil-theyre-also-about-gas.html
BTW, the second amendment rights are the least of our problems. Especially when we have NDAA which is far more damaging to our constitutional rights.
DeleteYes, the NDAA is a huge concern, but it doesn't relegate the assaults on the second amendment to least of our problems status.
DeleteI certainly don't expect Piers Morgan to ever report on or Dianne Feinstein to ever acknowledge stuff like this. Woman w/ kids faces intruder w/ a .38 revolver, runs out of bullets. Despite being incapacitated having a punctured lung, liver, and stomach w/ four exit wounds, intruder manages to drive away.
Choose Your Own Crime Stats is a better approach at trying to drill down to root causes of problems these gonks are trying to legislate away with feel good crap that has no appreciable effect. Of course, I don't trust 'official' stats of any kind as non-partisan for they are most certainly manipulated. Want to hire more police officers? Mandate zealous reporting or even make some up to overreport. After you hire them, relax reporting criteria to 'prove' it was effective by underreporting. It happens more often than we'd like to think.
Are you kidding me? the NDAA allows for the military to pick up a U.S citizen and hold them indefinitely just on suspicion of who they hang out with. It's more of a direct assault on our constitution than any imagined threat to the 2nd amendment. It completely gets rid of Habeas Corpus that grants you far more rights and protections than those guns. Nothing would save that women from an intruder, not even a freaking gun in the house. The video is correct, we need to solve the issues of poverty in the inner cities. I have no problem with this. But we also need to find out men feel compelled to take their guns and kill others as random and then take their own life. I say this because 99% of all mass murders conducted with semi-automatics are conducted by men. What causes this? And why is it so easy for these men to shoot children, women and multiple people without blinking an eye. I find it deeply troubling why this question isn't asked.
DeleteThat question about why is it so easy for men to shoot children was asked and discussed here multiple times. rM even has a post up about Charlotte Iserbyte explaining operant conditioning that you commented on. We've discussed the influence of psychotropic drugs in creating homicidal and suicidal thoughts. Guns have been around for hundreds of years and still these type of incidents are extremely rare. Yet Feinstein is after semi-automatic rifles and they continuously and erroneously keep calling them 'assault weapons' as if that's will scare us and make the threat seem bigger than it is. Semi-automatic simply means that you must pull the trigger for each shot and the gases from the bullet eject the cartridge and load a new bullet. Revolvers are exactly the same, pull the trigger and a new bullet gets moved into firing position. But they make it out that it's these 'assault' weapons that must be restricted. True automatic firing assault weapons that fire continuously as long as the trigger is depressed are already severely restricted.
DeleteYou seem to keep insisting on 'solutions' that rely on others. Habeas corpus is an illusion doesn't mean crap if you must rely on others to apply it properly, honestly, ethically, and fairly to all. Robert Perske has been monitoring courts for years and how they convict persons with intellectual disabilities sometimes even when the physical evidence proves conclusively they couldn't have done it out of convenience of closing cases because they're so easily coerced into giving false confessions. We all know there aren't any innocent people in jail, are there, because we all have habeas corpus? Prosecutors are under pressure to win cases they bring to trial. They sometimes don't care if the person is innocent or not. There are numbers of cases where they hide exculpatory evidence even though that is against the law.
Jim Traficant was railroaded and the court denied defense witnesses from testifying, several that the FBI had tried to bribe them to falsely testify against him. Richard Detore was one witness who testified to Congress, but he was not allowed to testify to the jury. Juror #8 stated that if he had seen Detore's testimony, he couldn't have convicted him. They also changed the venue, not so he could get a fair trial, but to make it easier for the state to convict. So what good did habeas corpus do for Traficant? If they can do that to a sitting Congressman, what good does habeas corpus do you?
The NDAA may actually turn into a good thing. If and when more people start disappearing like the KGB and Gestapo taking away people in the middle of the night, it might just be what's needed to wake more up who are left.
Well I agree with you our courts are as corrupt as it gets. But I don't see conservatives offering any solutions except arming themselves. Which is no solution. Yet all I hear is blame the left. Wall Street aren't left they are in the conservative camp as are all big business types. They always have been. Even Goldman Sachs workers are arming themselves at their desks because they are scared to death of the people who are on to them and willing to down to Wall Street and protest. They even got the FBI spying on these protestors claiming they were worried about terrorists in their group. Which is absolute garbage. And it was recently revealed that the FBI knew of a group of gunmen with sniper rifles that were going to plant themselves on higher ground and assassinate the leaders of OWS. So the FBI was after OWS for terrorism which there was none and hid the fact that there were actual terrorist assassins ready to murder OWS leaders. I don't see the Tea Party doing that because they generally take the side of business and big business and demonize OWS, college professors and colleges instead.
DeleteBTW Frank, there are already people disappearing (including Canadian citizens) in other countries through extrordinary rendition-still-under the Obama administration. Are we awake yet?
DeleteAnd still our own prison systems are filled with former military soldiers as guards who are using torture on our own citizens in prison, the same torture as they used on Iraqi prisoners. Are we awake yet?
Then there is the fact that peaceful protestors, including college students who's very future is at stake, and men, women and senior citizens being beaten and having chemical weapons sprayed into their eyes at these protests. Where is your outrage there? Are we awake yet?
Yet all I hear is concern about guns. The left is not the enemy. The left has absolutely no power in this country. The banking cartels and Wall Street are the enemy. The left have nothing to do with them as many on this site claim. And I know you are not addressing this in your above comment but I feel I must with passion address this. I desperately fear for my country. No gun is going to protect you or your family when they come for you or me or whoever they decide the enemy is when the plutocrats clamp down even more than they are. That is why this conversation needs to be more than just gun laws. We have mental health issues in this country, we have serious ecological issues including the contamination of water. We have the take over of lands for the oil and gas corporations. We have so much WRONG and all the signs point toward Wall Street and the banks and the oil industry, not the left. Until the tea party and conservatives wake up to that, we will remain polarized just like the Plutocrats want us. Perhaps some of this has already been addressed in RM's blog. But I had to say it in my own words.
Please see my left-right paradigm post. I don't even see things in terms of "conservative" and liberal or right or left anymore. All I want to know are the basics:
DeleteIs this person/group aware of the police state, the implications of the "battlefield", the threats on free speech etc.?
Who is funding this person/group - is it a corporation, a tax-exempt foundation (always bankster funded), or is it really grassroots?
Is this person/group wise the wiles of the banking cartels/vampire squid, or will they get duped into serving their aims?
It's true a gun is not going to stop a SWAT team, but with millions of Americans armed to the teeth, it makes their subjugation project that much harder.
Yes you want to know the basics. I agree. But then you proceed to demonize college professors and their students. It isn't helping your cause because they too have been teaching that we are living in a police state. And, they have been asking the same questions that your list provides.
DeleteNo arming the Americans isn't going to make the government's subjugation project that much harder. After Hitler took the arms of citizens he had no problem rolling over the Soviets (which had a massive military and population), the Dutch, the French the Czchecs, the Poles or bombing England. And they were all armed to the teeth!
In spite of what is going on around us, I hope you and yours find tonnes of happiness in this new year!
ReplyDeleteThanks Jim. I am going to need to hurry up and make my resolutions while I still have time!
DeleteHappy New Year=RM
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